_Mark_ ([info]eichin) wrote,
@ 2004-02-04 00:34:00
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Current mood:doom doom de doom
Current music:The Doom Song - Invader Zim

excess cynicism
Quoting the privacy policy of a popular social networking system:

"We use industry standard security measures to protect your information so that it is not made available to unauthorized parties."

My first thought: "industry standard" these days means "MyDoom.A is fighting with Seti@home for cycles".

At least they're clear about some of the dangers:

"As with any social networking service, you should use care when disclosing your personal information to strangers."

Too bad the users seem to be split between people who don't get that, and people who make random things up instead. See also Cory Doctorow on why intentional metadata is doomed; compare my job with GeoURL for an example of how NLP tech improvements are continuing to win against user-supplied metadata. Think about how many of these relations could be auto-discovered by sufficient processing of existing data - and if you think they wouldn't be, why not, and why are you choosing to change that?

Consider also how usefully this might tie into some of the CDC's projects, especially when you are reminded that they may, perfectly reasonably, "disclose your personal information and the contents of your account if required to do so by law or in a good faith belief that such access preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to comply with legal process". And of course, if you're an American and think "that's ok, it's our guys after all" remember that "by using this site, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country" to their facilities elsewhere - dealing with one company doesn't mean dealing with one jurisdiction.

If you're not as cynical about this as I am, ponder why you aren't.

Good night, sleep well...




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[info]mistergrumpy
2004-02-03 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Simple: you can find 90% or more of what's in my profile with Google already. There's not really anything there to protect.

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[info]kcr
2004-02-03 11:29 pm UTC (link)
I am an enthusiastic user of one of these popular sites (I suspect it's the same one). I also suspect I'm more cynical about it than you are; I don't mind telling it things because I'm pretty sure "They" already know. I'm *keenly* aware that I'm sending this information in the clear over the public internet to a service that I don't trust any farther than I can throw. I think of it as a somewhat odd video game.

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[info]mistergrumpy
2004-02-04 12:07 am UTC (link)
As far as GeoURL, I know the author, but I never found it interesting, precisely because user-supplied metadata could even accidentally be useless.

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[info]eichin
2004-02-04 08:38 am UTC (link)
Right, the GeoURL mention is because the most recent reference to it in my weblog reading was to someone who wanted to use it but kept finding useless pages because of a certain kind of geographic incompetence on the part of the users supplying the data... whereas data that is actually communicating to humans, if it can be interpreted correctly, is more likely to be "real" or at least convincing, because the human "understands" it better, and knows if they're failing to communicate with other humans.

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[info]ocschwar
2004-02-08 02:55 pm UTC (link)
I met some of the folks trying to do detection of bioterror, and
their program started as a post-debacle investigation of the
Hantavirus epidemic in the Navajo rez. One very BIG thing they
emphasize internally is that for this program to work, people
have to trust it, and that trust has to be earned and maintained.
They want centralized clearinghouses that will detect when
too many people in some place are showing up in hospital with
a hemorrhagic fever. They do not want names along with the numbers.
But, 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and all, that could change.
Stupidity conquers all.

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